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Managing thoughts of suicide & self-harm

TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

I figure it's better to introduce my challenges here than in a welcome. Hopefully only people willing to hear about SI will venture here.

TW: Suicidal Ideation

Content/trigger warning

I've had thoughts of suicide since I was 12. I don't remember much of life before this time. I'm aware there are times that I haven't though as much about suicide as others, but it's always been a "yes please, that would be my preference" even during the better times.

Why am I still alive then? For two reasons:

- the emotional pain it would cause to very close family.

- the physical pain of accessible methods, and the risks of non-fatal attempts causing lifelong physical impairments.

How do I keep myself going all these years?

By focusing on how I can benefit other people's lives instead. If I'm going to put up with life, it may as well be beneficial to someone.

And to help me keep life less monotonous I look for 'interesting' things - quirky people, exploring foreign countries/cultures, trying new foods (even if i dont think I'll like them). I've never been a status-quo person.

I explain to MH supports that when life is not distressing I can carry on without seriously considering suicide as a possible option. I can say "hello there thought, I hear you but I have chosen not to act on it, things are OK". But when something sets things off kilter, its a pretty quick track back to "why am I still doing this? Do I really still have the same commitment to living? And why, for whom? Why can't I be permitted to die if that's what I want for myself?"

With decades of this under my belt, I have the ability to sit with feelings of extreme distress. And the courage to text or call someone if I need to - and I'm getting a little better at doing this *before* it gets too extreme, but I still hesitate because I don't want to burden others and the frequency of it happening during those unbalanced times is too often. I've persuaded myself a few times recently to instead call a crisis line, but waiting 30-45min in a queue can sometimes exacerbate the thoughts, and sometimes the calls might help dissipate the feelings (if i called early enough) but other times I feel worse after because of course they're going to try to give some positive outlook for the future, but it grates on me because deep down I dont want a future at all. Its actually refreshing when someone acknowledges that not liking/wanting life is OK - and instead just tries to look at how to rebalance the scales to help me cope with continuing to live despite not wanting to.

I'm not sure how un/common my way of thinking is. So much about suicide prevention is focused on short-term distress tolerance or "fixable" problems (eg situations).

What do I need from the community here...?

To be heard? To know if anyone else out there has a long enduring preference to die even when they aren't feeling active distress? And if so, has anything helped them longterm to shift that thinking?

If anyone knows of any practitioners who *specialise* in chronic SI since a young age, I'd really love to know who (if there is a way someone is allowed to??). I've tried Google searching and using online psych directories and reading bio's. I've seen many psychologists and psychiatrists in the past who haven't been able to help me shift this (even if theyve helped in other ways).

I do wonder if my neural networks for positive emotional may not have fully developed or may have atrophied due to the young age and length of time. I genuinely do not know what being happy feels like, I do not have any memory that I recall as being "happy" or joy, and I suspect this makes recovery much harder.

Im ok at the moment. Im safe. But it is exhausting.

Apologies this post is quite a bit too long.

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In response to: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Hello @AlwaysMyself @Chasingsunsets @Cuddlebear @Flutterbug9,

Just dropping by to say hi and to check in on how you're going. (I am hoping you get this tag!)

Sending big healing hugs your way. 🥰

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Hey @AlwaysMyself @Flutterbug9 @Cuddlebear @AuntGlow how are you all?😊

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@Chasingsunsets @AlwaysMyself

Hello to you both. How are you? I can understand having the OCD when things can be a bit topsy Turvey here.

I havnt been online until today. So far things seem to be working a little better. I havnt been able to access this thread until today so I’m glad I can now. I’ve been battling away with mental heaklth and felt very disconnected here after the changeover. All I do is go medical appointments. Apart from that I just stare at alls with no functional ability.

Alwaysmyself mentioned a return to work but not sure if that’s happened yet.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Hey @AlwaysMyself and @Cuddlebear 💛

sorry cuddlebear, I didn’t get your tag I hope you get mine but I’m loosing hope here.

Things have been getting better here which I am really thankful for but it’s been so slow. I dunno I’m starting to run out of steam maybe. I’ll keep pushing though. You are not alone feeling disconnected since the roll out I definitely feel it too and I am sorry you are feeling that way. Didn’t expect all this pre outage either. How’s you week looking, when I can I am super keen to connect with you but I know it’s hard when tags aren’t working. Hopefully that function will improve soon. Take care and always lovely seeing you around ☀️

@Flutterbug9 

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Hey @AlwaysMyself just dropping by to say I have been thinking about you and how you have been travelling. What have you been doing? 💚

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

big apologies alwaysmyself that I have to post here, I’ll delete when sorted and know you won’t mine me landing here for this request 🙏.

@moderator are you getting flagged posts? When you have time can you please check if you have one from me. Thanks so much

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Hello @Chasingsunsets! We can see your tag. Is everything okay? 💛

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Thanks for your reply @AuntGlow, I hope you have been able to see the flags from I think I did one earlier today and over the last couple of days which adds a bit more. Can someone help with that request?

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Thinking of you @AlwaysMyself how are you going? Do you remember ages and ages ago probably when I was very new to the forum we were talking about birds and the kites and how you were able to ID them from the sky? Well maybe two months ago I had finished a stack of nights and went for a walk, I saw this bird and just had no idea what it was. I was completely stumped. To make it a bid harder it was quite high up in the tree so not good pics at all. I ended up just thinking this bird was a kite with funny markings 🤭. Anyway 3 weeks ago or so ago I actually saw this type of bird again (it had caught a cockatoo 😬) but this time there was two and I stood watching them fly and one that was eating its meal. Finally I worked out what the bird was- one I didn’t even know existed! An Australian Hobby! Have you heard of them? Once you see it you can’t unsee it and it’s very obvious it’s not a kite 🤭 (glad my job isn’t to ID birds lol). Anyway wanted to share a little highlight of mine of discovering a new bird, quite a pretty one too! Love there markings. 😊

Hey there @AuntGlow, how’s your week been? Thanks so much for the other week and just being there in that moment, I really do appreciate it. Sorry I didn’t have many words. Haven’t been like that in a while. Turns out this therapy has been the hardest by far I have ever done. I do think it’s helpful but does it take you places. I did not expect it. Mostly you just get confused, working out what’s true, times like a vortex you land in the past, or somewhere else. Not sure what I expected but thought processing would be in chronological order 🤣, but you don’t get to choose and you don’t see it coming until it arrives. Likely complicated by shift work think that challenges the brain reprocessing and how memories or whatever it is moves through maybe. Going to try not have sessions that week before nights. Its all been super super interesting but definitely nothing like any other thearpy I have done before, I feel much better after my recent session. Also back on the autoimmune meds and I am actually feeling a lot better so not sure if that was part of how I was too as my levels were back where I started pre meds about a year ago so did need to restart them but didn’t want to but that decision was made clear to go back on them when conditions changed. Anyway 🌀storm may have settled its early days but fingers crossed. Thanks again ☀️

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