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Introductions

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Hey guys,

So a little about me. I joined the Army at 17 years old and I had plans to stay in for 20 years. Unfortunately 2 1/2 years into my service I was diagnosed with bipolar. I initially elected to stay in the Army but then because of a person acting because of stigma I was subsequently put back in hospital so I was medically discharged. I was really disappointed. I enjoyed my service overall especially going out bush. I would say my least favourite aspect was shining my boots and brass ready for parades. So I was diagnosed with bipolar affective disorder at 19 years of age. I later met my husband at 21 years old and got married when I was 22. I had 3 kids. Two boys and a girl. I love being a mother and I feel like that was the role I was born for. My kids are all adults now and have moved away from home. I have been married just over 31 years now and my hubby is my soulmate. He is 10 years older than me. I am looking forward to seeing what the future has in store. I am currently studying cert 4 in mental health peer work and I have been a member of Sane forums for 4 years in May. Sane has been a huge part in my recovery. Anyway nice to meet you all.

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@Oaktree I've heard some great things about EMDR from friends who have had it.

My son is a gorgeous, funny, empathetic guy who loves his footy, isn't a fan of high school work but is a fan of hanging out with his mates there haha! He's very in tune with my moods even though going through puberty, I've explained a lot of psych type stuff to him, so he understands if I have something coming up I'm going to be stressing about I might be a bit cranky and is so good at diffusing my moods with humour

How far away do your kids live from you? It must be exciting watching them thrive even though you miss them

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@Azalea

My first son used to live really close to me. About a 10 minute drive away. He and his fiancee recently bought a house and are now about 45 minutes away. My second son lives over an hour away on the other side of the river and my daughter is studying in Hawaii

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@Oaktree

loved reading your intro and extremely similar to line.
joined at 17 but took early discharge for a number of reasons.
Married 22 years and adult children also.
have moved into the MH space to provide as much lived experience support as possible.
looking forward to engaging in the forums more regularly

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Hi all

I joined initially as a reservist in the early 90s. I reckon I only survived recruit course because of all the people who were like “you’ll never get through recruit training”. I was female, quirky, into alternative music, tiny and very outspoken. Despite all that I did make it and served over 30 years, doing quite a bit of full time service in those years.

Unfortunately, I never got to deploy - my husband wasn’t supportive and I had young children when I was offered the opportunity. I don’t think it’s something you can do without your family on board (kudos to all ADF families).

I had some shitty experiences - an indecent assault by my WO2 (never reported), bullying and unacceptable behaviour, really poor leadership at times. But I also feel really proud of the work I did - and I made great friends. It set me onto the career path I’m on now. My army service has made me the person I am today.


I have two grown up kids, one at home and one moved out. They are pretty awesome people. My son may end up in Defence, but he has the neuro-spiciness that he inherited from me. I was diagnosed with ADHD a couple of years ago and it has made SO much sense.

I live with anxiety and have previously experienced depression, but I’m in a good place now where I know how to manage them (mostly).

looking forward to connecting in this space with others who understand

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Hello @Breakfast68 @Magpie22

Thank you for your messages. I have read them but I haven’t had the time to respond. Sounds like indecent assault by someone in your chain of command is not uncommon unfortunately.

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@Breakfast68

I am currently studying cert 4 mental health peer work. I am hoping that I can give back to the MH community and advocate for improvements to the system. There is a lot that needs to be done. I think I am a bit of an activist. I was one of those kids in the peace marches in the 80’s. I grew up knowing that I needed to fight for my rights. Pleased that you are here in this space

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Welcome @Slipper

Nice to see you.

I hope that you are doing ok

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Hi All,

Thanks @Oaktree and everyone, I appreciate all of you sharing some of your experiences here ❤️.

Anyway, I stumbled upon this forum by accident today, because I was looking up support resources (via the Open Arms website) for a personal self-care plan that I have to put together, to be able to share my lived experience for an assessment as part of a Certificate IV Mental Health Peer Support Work course (Snap! 🎴 Oaktree) that I am currently undertaking.

That said, I can relate with some of your experiences, having joined the Regular Army in the late 1980s when I was 17, only to end up being medically discharged after 4 months of service. I then followed that up (after injury recovery) by rejoining the Army 18 months later. Albeit this time I joined the Army Reserve with the intention of going back into the ARA (which I didn't do).

Short story long 🤣, I ended up serving for 14 years in the Reserve (in Reserve and some Regular units), mostly doing around 100 days a year. With my last 4 years spent in a high-tempo high-deployment mixed Regular and Reserve unit. I did not serve on operations overseas at all. Yet, I feel fortunate for having had the privilege, to have done work in my last 4 years, that contributed in very meaningful ways to a number of Australian operations overseas and on our borders.

Looking back I think fondly of a lot of my service experiences. Yet, I also found some experiences very difficult as well, especially those at the beginning and the end of my service.

That shared, I figure some/all of you can relate, I feel slightly anxious about participating here, despite being ostensibly A Nonnie Moose. Yet I am keen to participate here with my peers, for support, connection, advice, suggestions, grounding. And also to help my peers as well, by offering support, connection, advice and grounding as well.

On mental health I have experienced plenty of trauma, from being in the wrong place by happenstance at some terribly wrong times, through having to remain in the wrong place by choice without let up, intensely (with almost every day for 3 years bringing a new crisis) as a carer of a loved one.

Growing up wasn't always easy either, and I am still on my journey coming to terms with some things. Yet I am fortunate to find myself with support and having moved forward.

On the journey moving forward, after reaching a very low point when I felt completely helpless and overwhelmed by what I was having to go through, I overcame my sense of shame at the idea of needing help when I really needed it and called Open Arms, late one night, some years ago, and got some of the help that I needed.

Of which, all of that experience, has seen my exposure to a broad range of mental health services both private and public, (hospitals, community based and more), in different Local Health Districts. Navigating NDIS services, guardianship, involuntary treatment, restraints and plenty more besides, including seeing so many things go terribly wrong.

Which also led to experience in advocacy, including up to State government level with some success at getting some things changed for the better. Although I have recently come to appreciate the lesson, that one shouldn't become complacent, because the mental health provider landscape is always evolving and though there have been some wonderful improvements, it isn't always a pretty picture.

All of which has inspired me to seek an opportunity to make a difference by trying to practically contribute to making things better for people who experience mental health services in New South Wales and Australia. In order to try to prevent what has happened to my loved one, happening to others.

I am also sorry that some of you have had bad experiences in service as well. Yet I am glad that you are still going and are here on this forum as well.

On a lighter note, I am into drawing, painting and photography, and for a time I used to earn a living from doing that as well. I am also happily married, with my wife and I having been together for 29 years (married for 26) and we've got two adult kids together as well. And we still go out to see bands, and visit nice places when we have the time as well.

Also @Oaktree I remember going to student rallies against the NSW state government, way back when I was in High School. And @Magpie22 thanks for sharing about your ADHD diagnosis, my wife wants me to get assessed for a potential diagnosis, since she is convinced I am Autistic and have ADHD (which would makes sense if I am).

Cheers.

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Hi Oaktree, thanks for the welcome, I am okay and I hope you are the same as well.

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@Slipper

Thanks for your introduction. My psychologist thinks I have ADHD but I am not officially diagnosed. I asked my public psychiatrist about it but they don’t diagnose ADHD there. I will just assume I have it.

I had trauma in my childhood as well. That is something that I am working on now with my psychologist.

How far into your course are you? Are you enjoying it? I have found it a bit challenging so far with quite intense feelings of wanting to quit a couple of times. At the moment I am starting to stress out about some role plays that we have coming up. I usually do ok so I dont know why I am stressed. Anyway once we finish this term we don’t have much longer left to go. Just next term and 4 weeks the following term and then prac. We finish early December.

I am passionate about helping people to make their own choices in their treatment and helping services to treat people with the dignity they deserve. I think there is a lot of good that Lived Experience can do in the mental health sector. I would also like to get involved in advocacy.

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